World Business List – this scam just won’t die.

UPDATE: The Dutch police are aware of these scammers. See this post for a letter from the Dutch police secretariat, a way to report correspondence, and their advice (send no money, do nothing).

WBL

I detailed the workings of this fraudulent operation back in 2013, and wondered at that time why the Dutch authorities don’t shut these scumsuckers down. (Edit: they’re working at it.)

They’re still at it.


Edit: Per a comment below, this scam may also come from “World Company List.” Same bad guys or another outfit just like them.


Edit 2 (11-23-2017): Numerous people have been deceived by this fraudulent outfit, and start getting threats from the legal firm of “Waldberg and Hirsch”, including demands for late fees. Feel free to use the following text if it is useful:

To whom it may concern:

I was deceived by your misleading solicitation, in the which you proclaim that “Updating is free of charge.” My submission was a mistake. I do not want an entry in your database, and I will never use your service. I will not pay for a service I have no intention of using. Please delete any such entry and all my information from your database and do not contact me again. Further contacts by you or your representatives will be forwarded to the relevant authorities.


Received today this email:

From: “Olivia Andre” <info@mailguild.com>
To: <info@academyofgreatness.com>

Subject: [SPAM] Business Registration 2015/2016

Ladies and Gentlemen.
In order to have your company inserted in the registry of World Businesses List for 2015/2016 edition, please print, complete and submit the attached form (PDF file) to the following address:
World Business List
P.O. BOX 3079
3502 GB, Utrecht
The Netherlands
email: register@wbi2015.net
fax: +31 20 524-8107
Updating is free of charge!
If you are not the intended recipient, please submit an email to remove@wbi2015.net
Your request shall be dealt with accordingly.
What’s different?
  • Now it’s “World Business List” instead of “European Trade Register.”
  • The originating email is register@wbi2015.net instead of register@etr2013.net.
  • The “sender” is Olivia Andre instead of Marta Low; my suspicion is that both the sender names and the originating email addresses are spoofed.
  • The website is  http://www.worldbusinesslist.net instead of http://www.european-traderegister.com (which is now 404.)
  • “Updating” is still free of charge. It’s not until you get to the fine print that you find out you’ll be charged.
  • The three-year price is now €995 instead of €990. Scamming expenses have apparently risen.
  • The address is the same, so this is definitely the same outfit.

The Fine Print:

ORDER
THE SIGNING OF THIS DOCUMENT REPRESENTS THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS AND THE CONDITIONS STATED IN “THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR INSERTION” ON WEB PAGE: WWW.WORLD BUSINESSLIST.NET THE SIGNING IS LEGALLY BINDING AND GIVES YOU THE RIGHT OF AN INSERTION IN THE ONLINE DATABASE OF THE WORLD BUS INESS LIST WHICH CAN BE ACCESSED VIA THE INTERNET, ALL IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CONTRACT CONDITIONS STATED IN “THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR INSERTION” ON WEB PAGE: WWW.WORLDBUSINESSLIST.NET. THE VALIDATION TIME OF THE CONTRACT IS THREE YEARS AND STARTS ON THE EIGHTH DAY AFTER SIGNING THE CONTRACT. THE INSERTION IS GRANTED AFTER SIGNING AND RECEIVING THIS DOCUMENT BY THE SERVICE PROVIDER. I HEREBY ORDER A SUBSCRIPTION WITH SERVICE PROVIDER EU BUSINESS SERVICES LTD. “WORLD BUSINESS LIST”. I WILL HAVE AN INSERTION INTO ITS DATABASE FOR THREE YEARS. THE PRICE PER YEAR IS EURO 995. THE SUBSCRIPTION WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY EXTENDED EVERY YEAR FOR ANOTHER YEAR, UNLESS SPECIFIC WRITTEN NOTICE IS RECEIVED BY THE SERVICE PROVIDER OR THE SUBSCRIBER TWO MONTHS BEFORE THE EXPIRATION OF THE
SUBSCRIPTION. YOUR DATA WILL BE RECORDED. THE PLACE OF JURISDICTION IN ANY DISPUTE ARISING IS THE SERVICE PROVIDER’S ADDRESS. THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE SERVICE PROVIDER AND THE SUBSCRIBER IS GOVERNED BY THE CONDITIONS STATED IN “THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR INSERTION” ON WEB PAGE: WWW.WORLDBUSINESSLIST.NET

 Notice the “legally binding” verbage. The enterprise name has changed, but the music remains the same.

Do not be taken in by these bottom-feeders. Refer to the previous entry for further details.

The Old Wolf has spoken.

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56 responses to “World Business List – this scam just won’t die.

  1. i was being scammed by this World Business List. i thought it was Free of Charge, so i have signed the order form and email back to them. Now they are billing me 995euro. what should i do here? please advise. i am from Malaysia

    • Sorry that happened. As I wrote in my earlier post:

      “If you happen to fall for this, these things will happen:

      – The company will ignore any attempts to contact them
      – If you simply refuse to pay, you will begin to get aggressive and threatening communications from a “global debt collection company,” Waldberg & Hirsch. That firm does not exist – it’s just the same drones trying to frighten you into paying. They will demand payment in full for the agreed-to three years, but will settle for one year’s payment if you’re foolish enough to send it.

      The solution:

      Just ignore them. They can’t sue you, because they are running a scam, they know it, and they don’t want to attract legal attention to themselves. Never pay these gong-farmers a cent; ultimately they’ll go away.

      Be patient. Ignore any emails, letters, or calls. Send them no money.

      Good luck.

  2. Is the ignoring really works?
    They also tricked me and I’m receiving email from them to pay the invoice for 995 and addition costs
    – Late Payment Fee in the amount of EUR 99,-
    – Administration Fee in the amount of EUR 35,-

    What you think is it clever to send them letter I would like to be deleted from their list. At least to avoid later invoices if they found the way to bill this one.

    I’m from Serbia

    • Now, remember, I’m not a lawyer. But I would ignore them. However, if you feel the need, you could write them a letter and say, “I was fooled by your deceptive email. I do not want to be included on your list. Please stop contacting me.” That way, you have expressly indicated that your submission was in error. Then you can ignore any further communication from them. They are running a scam. In order to pursue legal action against you, they would have to attract attention to their deceptive marketing practices, which they don’t want to do. Срећно.

  3. I am not licensed in your jurisdiction and cannot offer legal advice on this subject.

    I can offer the practical advice that you might google for “world business list” and “judgment” and see if any come up.

    Also check whether the form suggests that it might be enforceable in your jurisdiction. This is rather hypothetical, first you have to find any judgments and efforts to domesticate them into a defendant’s state. Good luck with that step.

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  5. I am also a victim to fall into World Business List.

    Why it can stay for such a long is because no one reports to the Netherlands Police Office. No one fights back! Why?

    We may not be able to take back our loss, but we can help the next victime to be scammed!

    Contact the Netherlands Police website and tell them your own experience, and ask the Netherlands Police to investigate World Business List and stop their scam. The Netherlands Office website: https://www.politie.nl/en/contact/contactform.html?sid=4897df86-2917-4c62-8add-282dcd25ff08.

    You may also send an email to them:info@police.nl!

  6. May I know has anyone of you ever verified World Business List’s legal identification? That is, does anyone know their company registration number with the Netherlands government, or their VAT/TAX number? Or does anyone know their company real address (can you believe they have 2 different PO boxes and 1 address in 3 different cities: Amsterdam on envelop, GA Utrecht on invoice, and Zeist on the sign form!!!)?

  7. I am planning to make a petition letter for all the victims to appeal to the Netherlands Police Office. The victims can describe their loss or their bad experiences of being threatened. I wonder will you can support me to post this letter on your blog for these victims?

      • Ok, thank you, Old Wolf! I will draft it and let you have the copy once it is done. Before that, I need to wait for the Netherlands government’s confimration on verifying Wold Business List’s legal status. I will keep you updated whenever there is a further feedback from the Netherlands government!

      • Just received my reminder email requesting payment as its overdue. I will ignore it as suggested. Still very interested in joining any pettision to the Dutch police or similar. I did contact them directly and fill in their form but the language barrier prevented any further action.
        Standing by for the next move.
        Keep well.
        Dave

  8. I have completed the Petition draft in word file. Please let me know how do I upload the document to your blog so that all the victims can leave their information and send to the Netherlands government and the Netherlands Police Officers?

    • Dear Ling Yuan

      Good Morning, would you please send me the draft copy your petition enabling me to send to the World business list because same thing is happening with me. the continuously sending mail to pay their dues with extra fees. The wrote today “QUOTE:

      Dear Sirs,

      Attached you may find the latest notification our Credit Department has issued (on 13/11/2017).

      You will receive it by post soon, but I have attached it today so you can acknowledge it earlier.

      The Notification confirms the procedure of forwarding your debt to be analyzed by a debt collection agency.

      The actual debt your company has towards us – EUR 1129,-.

      To avoid further steps and extra fees added to this amount, your performing the transfer for the above-detailed amount is the soonest step to be taken.

      Regards,
      Ms Andreea, Account Manager

      Unquote

      Sincerely yours

      Nur Mohammad Nuru

  9. The same is happening to me. They are aggressively threatening with court action. Am getting scared.

    Gabriel

    • Gabriel, I’m sorry that you have to deal with this. Remember, I’m not an attorney, so I can’t give you official legal advice. But I will repeat the same thing I have said to others: Ignore these morons. They are all hot air and nothing else. If you feel like covering all your bases, you can respond with a brief letter that says something like “I’m sorry, I placed this listing in error. I do not wish to be listed in your directory. I politely decline to pay for a service that I will not receive.”

      The business model is to deceive and then to intimidate. If they actually ever took someone to court, it would shine light on their deceptive and underhanded business practices. Short of the brief response I mentioned, or something similar, you need never correspond with them – just ignore their bullying communications. Eventually they will slink away to try their tactics on a more submissive victim.

      • Dear Wolf, I am collecting all the documents from World Business List as the evidences of harrassment (the Account Manager ever promised that he will not contact my previous company again and he eats up his words!). May I know if the final version of Petition will be moved on?

  10. Hi All

    Just ask them to provide you the company license and passport copy of the directors, sure they will stop, happened with me, however you can always register a case with your local cyber crime police they will take it from there and contact the Dutch Police.

    best regards

  11. I just received an email from what may be another group of bottom feeders so I did a quick search and found your page.
    Thanks for the info.

    You will notice there are a couple of differences to your email.
    The Address and Fax number is different but when i searched the fax number it along with the address have a history going back to 2014 which is why I think it may be another group of bottom feeders.

    sent from: contact@worldcontactmedia.com

    Subject: Pending – World Company List 2017/2018 [REF:FVI-34883]

    Ladies and Gentlemen.

    In order to have your business inserted in our registry of Universal Companies for the 2017-2018 edition: please print, complete and reply with the attached document (wbl-F1.jpg) or send it to the following address:

    World-Business-List
    Postbox 34
    3700 AA Zeist
    The Netherlands

    Fax: +31 30 310 0126

    Updates are free!

    You received this email because this address
    is listed in our database as being a business.
    If we are mistaken please reply with the word
    ‘remove’ as subject and we will remove this
    email address from our administration right away.

  12. I received this morning the letter from Waldberg & Hirsch Global Collections Ltd.
    My Total has now risen to EUR 1429. I will stand fast and refuse to pay or reply to them. It is indeed a concern to keep receiving these threats, we must not weaken against these tyrants.
    Dave

  13. I also one of the victims here. Their office based into Netherland but Bank Account into Malaga, Spain. Good that I found your sites. Will ignore them and will report to their Bank into Spain. Hope they can investigate as well.

  14. Good afternoon, I have a similar situation completely, all the same pattern, there were letters, now phone calls started, threatening. Very exhausting. Don’t speak English, can understand and write, I’m from Russia, they write to all addresses of the company. Glad I found your form, and received confirmation that you want to ignore them!

  15. Dear Sir, i am fro india & facing the same problem, they are demanding EUR 995 on account of listing in their directory.
    should i move the case to indian police for safety.or advise me .

    • I am sorry you are facing this difficulty like so many other people. I am not an attorney, so I cannot really advise you officially, but I tell everyone who asks me the question to just ignore these idiots. They may make a lot of noise, but they will ultimately go away.

      • here is what I got today:

        To Sir/Madam,

        We have to remind you the due date for the invoice no. 200244, issued for the insertion of Gift Way (OOO “Путь Подарка”) into the current edition of our Business Register (2017/2018) Ms Ekaterina Lebedeva ordered – was 08/05/2017.

        Your debt to our company reached EUR 1429,-, as late payment, administration and legal fees have been added to the initial amount of the invoice (according to the legal letter dated 11th of September, 2017).

        In case of non-payment, our Legal Counselor will issue the 2nd legal letter – within several weeks – increasing your debt with EUR 500, – additional legal fee.

        Whether the payment of EUR 1129,- is effected by the 18th of September, 2017 the latest, you will save both our companies substantial costs, valuable time and avoid any unpleasant situations created by involving our lawyers.

        If no payment is made available by the above-mentioned date, a payment less than the amount of EUR 1429, – will not solve the issue we obviously have with your company in your honoring your financial obligations towards us.

        Attached you may find the scanned copy of the legal letter above-detailed.

        Thank you for your time and cooperation for sending the proof of payment in return to this email.

        Best regards,

        Credit Department
        Tel: +31 208080789
        Fax: +31 205248107

  16. I am Nur Mohammad from Bangladesh. I am also a victim to fall into World Business List.
    I thought it was Free of Charge, so I have signed the order form and email back to them. Now they are billing me 995euro. After receive their bill I told them I wrongly signed and request them to remove my entry from their list. But they denied.
    They also tricked me and I’m receiving email from them to pay the invoice for 995 and addition costs
    – Late Payment Fee in the amount of EUR 99,-
    – Administration Fee in the amount of EUR 35,
    Please advise me what I have to do?

    • Ignore them completely. They make lots of noise, threaten people with legal action, and generally behave very badly, but there is nothing they can do. Give them no money. Ultimately they will go away.

      • Thank you very much for your nice suggestion, actually they create mental pressure to me, Now I am become feel free.

  17. Just refuse payment and threaten back with giving them media attention in tv programs etc and that you will notify police. They will stop because they know damn well what they are trying.

  18. May be. I was also intimidated when I got their invoice. Several time I request them to waive the inserting charge but the deny and create pressure to make payment otherwise they charge extra money for Late Payment Fee in the amount of EUR 99 and Administration Fee in the amount of EUR 35, After that I ignoring them completely. As a result they are not disturbing me since long. Hope bad element go away. Thank you very much The Old wolf for your good suggestion and advice. God bless you for your nice suggestion which you extend to the World Business List victim.

    Regards
    Nur Mohammad Nuru

  19. My experience is running since November 2016. When I got Invoice to pay, I emailed them and informed that, we are not interested to participate in this program. There after started to receive Reminders, final notices etc.. Completely ignored. In June 2017, received legal notice again ignored.

    What is surprising me that, they have renewed the subscription for another one year, and the new Invoice shows only subscription charges for two years. All other legal charges are not appearing in the new Invoice.(As per the legal notice from the collection agent, I must pay them Euro 1929/- (One Year subscription = Euro 995+Late payment fee = Euro 99+Administration fee Euro 35 + Legal fee Euro 300 + Additional Legal fee = Euro 500) and the new Invoice I received recently for Euro 2124/- (One year subscription = Euro 995/- + Second year subscription = Euro 995/- + Late payment fee = Euro 99 + Administrative fee = Euro 35)

    Also they are giving you discount of Euro 134/- for early payments !!! What a generous !!!

  20. Hello, we have a similar experience with this company. We contacted the Dutch police and deferred this clear statement:

    Good afternoon sir/madam,

    In case of fraud (payment), the police must report.

    As of 2015 people will be warned for this company.
    I can not say if there have been investigations in the past about this company.
    In any case, you can send your mail to valse-email@fraudehelpdesk.nl. That you receive any invoices.

    See below the warning about this company

    DOUBLE FORM ABOUT WORLD BUSINESS DIRECTORY
    March 4, 2015
    Entrepreneurs get a form of EU Business Services Ltd. The company collects company data to be published in World Business Directory. It seems to be a free update, but who signs a contract of three years.

    Advice
    You do not have to do anything. You are not obliged to respond to these types of offers. You can simply throw the document away.

    Have you also received a dubious mail? Let us know so that we can warn others.

    Warning for World Business List emails
    Watch for an e-mail about enrollment at the World Business List in Zeist. This e-mail is from the address: general.company@globalcompanies.online or info88@globalcompanies.online. and contains a PDF file where “the company” indicates that you can be in a list of companies when you fill out the form. If you return this you will be stuck for three years. It seems free, but costs 995 euros a year.

    Kind regards

    Sandy Honders-Egter
    Medewerkster wijksecretariaat
    Politie I Midden-Nederland I Utrecht stad I wijkteam Centrum

    Kroonstraat 25, 3511 RC Utrecht
    Postbus 8300, 3503 RH Utrecht

    T 0900-8844
    Werkdagen: maandag, dinsdag, woensdag

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